Thread:Hontou Kobayashi/@comment-28016152-20160322210030

Since you are blocked,,  I wanted you to see what I wrote. This is my way in saying Thank you.

Tsukiyaksha.

In all honesty, I only wrote to inform of what happen, not coming to you for a second opinion. I had broke the policy with my first post. However, Kobayashi had followed the policy. Kobayashi was treated unfairly. There was no vandalism, fanon, or disruption caused by Kobayashi. Disruption was by me. Clause #5 of the block policy. is  "Disruption – Users who disrupt the wiki (be it via changing other people's comments, making misleading edits, or harassing other users) may also be blocked."

Kobayashi was disagreeing with how they were treated from what they believed to be personal attacks on them. from the artile Kobayashi posted. http://inuyasha.wikia.com/wiki/InuYasha_Wiki:No_personal_attacks Kobayashi used those sentences including the one they got blocked on stating they were following the policies in a disagreement conversation. Kobayashi has every right to stand up. Lord Hyoga on the sentences from the policy. "Honestly, I don't get what you think you're accomplishing by constantly repeating "X is a point of view, not fact". Ultimately a discussion is an exchange of viewpoints, so this is somewhat redundant. "  and  '"Making statements just to provoke me" That's exactly what I'm talking about. How is anyone supposed to have a calm, rational conversation when you make hateful comments like that?"' and "Therefore, I am going to close the thread once again before you say something irresponsible that gets yourself blocked.'" and " Before you leave another laundry list of complaints,"  "I sincerely ask you to reconsider the way you speak with others" and "I would remind you that you are on my message wall, telling me "no need to respond", all the while making ludicrous statements" (kobayashi made a positive had a good life no need to respond bit on his wall) and  "Closing thread to prevent further argument or baiting behavior; have referred individual for second time to other administrator if he needs an alternative remedy to his edit dispute."
 * Disagreements about content such as "Your statement about X is wrong" or "Your statement is a point of view, not fact" are not personal attacks.
 * Personal attacks do not include civil language used to describe an editor's actions, and when made without involving their personal character, should not be construed as personal attacks. Stating "Your statement is a personal attack..." is not itself a personal attack — it is a statement regarding the actions of the user, not a statement about the user. There is a difference between "You are a troll" and "You are acting like a troll", but "You seem to be making statements just to provoke people" is even better, as it means the same without descending to name-calling. Similarly, a comment such as "responding to accusation of bad faith by user X" in an edit summary or on a talk page is not a personal attack against user X.

The edit dispute well canon being removed from the artiles dispute is mine. Kobayashi never made a case for that dispute which has been used against them 4 or more times. They had even said it was not. Another example, "Nor can it change the fact that it completely derailed your attempt to persuade me to allow that information to be included in the articles under discussion." Again that was not Kobayashi's dispute, it was mine and Kobayashi never tried that. Kobayashi felt accused, insulted. Who would not.and who would not stand up for their selves? Kobayashi was fpllowing the policy, verbatim or one word different. how is that baiting? If I made statements similar to those and others statements toward a user, like the comments to Kobayashi, I would been blocked.

Kobayashi got blocked on saying." Making statements just to provoke me" That's exactly what I'm talking about. How is anyone supposed to have a calm, rational conversation when you make hateful comments like that?"  That line is from the policy as well. I changed "other" to "me."   I am following the guidelines of the policy, I am not provoking a fight. Your statements again are a point of view, and not fact.  I have not said anything irresponsible nor I am forcing others I have not be hostile with anyone. I have been following the guildlines.  I am following guides and I did nothing to get a warning because I did anything agaist the policies.  You give a warning to inuyashaluver.   Have a good day, We'll say goodbye here.. have a good life.  May good fortune be in your life. Cheerio.  Long ling and prosper.  http://inuyasha.wikia.com/wiki/InuYasha_Wiki:No_personal_attacks"

They were clearly using and still was using the policies. Kobayashi walked again away,  3 mins later  he put this "I warned you against starting up the argument again. It seems like you won't learn your lesson without a cool-off ban. Please take the time to reconsider how you conduct yourself with members of the community."

They were standing up for their self over the hostile comments they recieved and they stated they were using the policies and left. I confused by 'it seems like you won't learn your lesson," and I am also confused with "reconsider how you conduct yourself with members of the community." when kobayashi was following the policy while standing up for themselves having a disagreement converstaion.    I can't found this statement, " warned Hontou Kobayashi to drop the argument and stop spamming my message wall" However I did find " Therefore, I am going to close the thread once again before you say something irresponsible that gets yourself blocked."   I look at this paragraph: "3 mins"  "won't learn your lesson" "get yourself blocked"   What do you, TsukiYaksha?   What I think? From the policy, " Stating "Your statement is a personal attack..." is not itself a personal attack — it is a statement regarding the actions of the user, not a statement about the user."    Most of the statements toward Kobayashi have been a personal attack to have I see it and Kobayashi.. Kobayashi was in regard of the actions, two different things.  Their last message was in regard of the actions of what the personal attacks from statements. From the time and the sections of the statements  I pointed out implies a personal attack and a planned one on Kobayashi not matter what they said.

Kobayashi was following policies  regrading of the actions and standing up to what they had been accused of. Kobayashi was serevely punished for following the policies and doing the right thing. Again, I only wrote to inform of what happen, not coming to you for a second opinion... I stand by my first comment to you TsukiYaksha. This is wrote by the rules of the policy. no personal attacks. It was wrote like Kobayashi's in regards of actions. Kobayashi was treated unfairly. 