InuYasha Wiki:Daimyō-kai/Log/2014 January 17

probably the biggest task on the agenda. * 9:47 Lenalia Row Thoughts/questions/concerns? * 9:47 Lenalia Row objections? * 9:47 HalberdBanryu I need to go look at the itinerary real quick to   remind myself. * 9:47 Lenalia Row Np, go ahead. * 9:49 HalberdBanryu Okay. 1st, I don't think Locations should be   subdivided any more-so than just "locations." Since there aren't   really that many that are named and/or are significant. So Shrines, Caves, Villages, Temples, etc, seems unnecessary. In my view. * JINIERULES has left the chat. * 9:50 Lenalia Row I can see your point. I'd be willing to drop that part of the proposition. * JINIERULES has joined the chat. * 9:51 Lenalia Row (Evan, you still around? >->) * 9:51 Super Shmevan Hmm, what do you mean in the "pending" section? About the Shikon Jewel shard users? * 9:51 Super Shmevan Oh, sorry about that. I was reading through it :) * 9:51 JINIERULES man i should high quality pics of chapter 475  * 9:51 Lenalia Row I wasn't sure where to categorize it, lol. And no    problem.  * 9:52 HalberdBanryu 2. Transportation (Bike, tank, horse...) These    are everyday objects, I don't think we need to create pages for    these. Unless you mean like A-un, Kirara, etc. But if we have a page    for Bike and Horse, why not for Kagome's medicines, the ramen she    buys, etc. I don't think we Need articles on items that exist in the    real world, because people (regardless of if they know InuYasha or    not) already know what those items are, and don't need it clarified.    Unless we do like "Kagome's Bike" or something.  * 9:52 JINIERULES i will add kagome's bike  * 9:53 HalberdBanryu We're an Inuyasha encylopedia, they can use    wikipedia if they don't know what a bicycle is.  * 9:53 Lenalia Row Jinie, do not. * 9:53 Lenalia Row Please wait until discussion is over before acting on things. * 9:53 Lenalia Row And, I got those from the InuYasha Profiles book. * 9:53 Lenalia Row It listed Transportation methods, and their features, etc. * 9:54 JINIERULES ok  * 9:54 HalberdBanryu It did? Well then I guess it's relevant. I mean it can be more about the Sengoku period than Inuyasha but that's   still useful. :3 * 9:55 Super Shmevan Hmm, would we need a 'martial artist' category? * 9:55 Super Shmevan How many characters would be considered martial artists in the series? * JINIERULES has left the chat. * 9:55 HalberdBanryu Not very many. Suikotsu... Maybe some of the demon ninjas? * 9:56 Lenalia Row I have no clue, but there is currently a martial artists category. I was suggesting renaming it.. but yeah, I'm not sure how many there are.. * 9:56 HalberdBanryu "Objects & materials" what do those consist of? * 9:56 Lenalia Row Wow. * 9:56 Lenalia Row The only one whose in Martial Artists atm is Sango.. * 9:57 Super Shmevan I would say things like the Shikon Jewel and Fuyoheki are objects, but I'm not sure what materials would refer to * 9:57 HalberdBanryu Suikotsu is the only I can think of who might go    under that as well. * 9:57 HalberdBanryu Don't we already have an object category? * 9:57 Super Shmevan Yeah * 9:57 Lenalia Row Hold up for a moment ^^" Should we keep the martial   artists category, or no..?  * 9:58 Super Shmevan I would say no  * 9:58 HalberdBanryu No.  * 9:58 Lenalia Row Okay, are there any suggestions for other abilities    to categorize individuals by?  * 9:59 Lenalia Row We can always add more later, but just asking now    for the interest of convenience..  * 10:01 Lenalia Row If you don't have anything off the top of your    head, we can move on to the materials inquiry.  * 10:01 HalberdBanryu I think that categories that will have less than    4 people should not be considered. If there are only 2 known    swordsmiths we meet in the InuYasha universe, there needn't be a    category, at least I think. It's when characters aren't unique that    they need the categories.  * 10:02 Lenalia Row M'kay, then we could just list those swordsmiths    on the actual page "Swordsmith" instead, yes? * 10:02 Super Shmevan So that would include samurai and physicians as   well right? * 10:02 Lenalia Row I would think so, Evan. * 10:02 HalberdBanryu Correct. * 10:02 Lenalia Row I can agree to that. * 10:03 HalberdBanryu Stuff like Yokai and Daiyokai where there are tons of them need categories, things with few, we shouldn't have to   give them their own category. Everyone in favor of that? * 10:03 Lenalia Row Yes. Anything with less than 4 then? * 10:04 Super Shmevan Yeah * 10:04 HalberdBanryu Sounds like a plan. So like Demon Ninjas work because there are 5 known, etc. * 10:04 Lenalia Row Okay, moving on to your inquiry about materials.. * 10:05 Lenalia Row It would be pages on things such as steel, yōkai bone (which is the kind of thing yōkai taijiya weapons are made of), I had something else and then it kinda just went... poof. >-> * 10:06 HalberdBanryu Wood? * 10:06 Lenalia Row Yeah, and fangs, perhaps. Like the inu no taisho's   fangs are used to craft his swords.. * 10:06 HalberdBanryu Now I'm just thinking of the 5 elements from movie 2. * 10:07 Super Shmevan Those are the only materials that we have articles about currently, that I can think of * 10:07 HalberdBanryu But there are only 3 swords made from fangs anyway, yeah? * 10:07 Super Shmevan And I don't know how relevant it would be to   have articles for wood, or steel, or things like that * 10:08 HalberdBanryu I don't think we need articles on common, everyday objects that exist in the real world. Period. * 10:08 Super Shmevan Agreed * 10:09 Super Shmevan Especially if they have no connection with InuYasha or even the Feudal Era * 10:10 HalberdBanryu I agree. Fangs maybe just because it's an   interesting thing that reoccur in the series, but not wood or steel or anything like that. * 10:10 Lenalia Row Some do have connection, though. Such as the bones of yokai, and fangs. I cant think of anything else atm * 10:10 HalberdBanryu And yeah, yokai bones. Which don't exist in the real world. * 10:11 Lenalia Row So where would those go, if not in materials? Just plain objects? * 10:11 HalberdBanryu Wood and steel do, we don't have to define those for people, we just have to define things that are unfamiliar to   people if they don't know InuYasha. * 10:11 Super Shmevan In that context, having an article for yokai bones is a very good idea * 10:12 HalberdBanryu I don't know. I guess they're objects? * 10:12 Lenalia Row Well, (not trying to be critical) Japan exists in   the real world, yet we have a page on that, you know. * 10:12 Lenalia Row As does Tokyo * 10:12 Super Shmevan True * 10:13 Lenalia Row And if we make clothing articles, those would exist in the real world too * 10:13 HalberdBanryu Yeah yeah, but you get what I mean. We don't   have to have articles like in chapter 15 "The Tessaiga, a sword made    out of Steel " that seems silly. * 10:13 Super Shmevan Yeah, like Armor and Kimonos, which we have articles for * 10:14 HalberdBanryu But those aren't always common knowledge. Tokyo and Kimono is culturally relevant to Japan, the setting of Inuyasha. What wood and steel are is universal. * 10:14 HalberdBanryu *are * 10:15 Super Shmevan Yeah, I get what you mean * 10:15 Lenalia Row As do I * 10:15 HalberdBanryu I just don't want to us to have articles on    things that have almost nothing to do with Inuyasha. * 10:16 Lenalia Row Well, Inuyasha is strong enough to punch through steel >.> * 10:16 Lenalia Row lol, I get it. No need for a page on steel and such * 10:16 Lenalia Row So then we leave yokai bones and fangs as objects * 10:16 Lenalia Row ? * 10:16 HalberdBanryu That works for me. Unless you want to do   Materials, but we'd have probably less than 4 in that category, wouldn't we? * 10:17 Lenalia Row True. But if we think up more, then it can qualify as its own category :) * 10:17 Lenalia Row So, no materials category.  * 10:17 Lenalia Row What else about the categories?  * 10:18 HalberdBanryu Tools and Protection.  * 10:18 Super Shmevan Ah yeah, protection  * 10:18 Lenalia Row Those were in the InuYasha Profiles book too. It    lists specific things under each  * 10:18 Lenalia Row hold on  * JINIERULES has joined the chat.  * 10:20 HalberdBanryu I'm updating what we've decided to do on the    categorization page, is that cool Rowan?  * JINIERULES has left the chat.  * 10:21 Lenalia Row Sure, but I'll be keeping a log of this    discussion, so yeah :) * 10:22 HalberdBanryu That's fine. It just helps me keep a check-list. We already have a male-female category. I think we should probably have an Orphan category too because they're like, every child character in the series pretty much. >_> * 10:22 Lenalia Row And it lists sango's mask as protection, as well as "Special protector made at the Demon Slayers' Village" (whatever   that is) * 10:22 Lenalia Row I thought there was more, but I can't seem to find them >-> * 10:22 Lenalia Row And yeah, lol, every child character xD * 10:23 HalberdBanryu What about tools? * 10:23 Lenalia Row I guess armor would be protection too * 10:23 Super Shmevan And shields * 10:23 Lenalia Row lots of tools * 10:23 Super Shmevan Like what? * 10:24 Lenalia Row Shippo's magic instruments, hammers (totosai), poison, rope... * 10:24 Lenalia Row and it lists some stranger things on miroku's page >-> * 10:24 HalberdBanryu Miroku uses rope lol * 10:24 HalberdBanryu Yeah I can see why we might use that category. * 10:24 Lenalia Row earrings, beads (i guess not so strange), string to tie hair, talisman charm... * 10:25 Lenalia Row Not so sure about these ones, lol * 10:26 Lenalia Row quiver, first aid kit, backpack.. yeah. * 10:26 Lenalia Row all that's listed as tools * 10:26 HalberdBanryu Most of those don't need pages. A few of them are relevant though. * 10:27 Lenalia Row I think we can detail which pages each category has later. But do we see a use for a tools category? * 10:28 HalberdBanryu I do, I think. * 10:28 Super Shmevan Yeah probably so * 10:28 Lenalia Row Next, ERA vs TIME PERIOD... I couldn't decide T-T * 10:28 HalberdBanryu Era * 10:29 HalberdBanryu ಠ_ರೃ It's fancier. * 10:29 Super Shmevan Yeah era * 10:29 Lenalia Row M'kay, I was fine with whatever y'all chose, lol * 10:30 HalberdBanryu How many Miko can you think of? I can think of   4. >_> * 10:30 Lenalia Row Anything else ? * 10:30 Super Shmevan There are a lot of them * 10:31 Lenalia Row Kanade, Kaede, Kagome, Kikyo, tsubaki * 10:31 HalberdBanryu Priests and Priestesses, but I can only think of   Midoriko, Hitomiko, and Kagome/Kikyo * 10:31 Lenalia Row there's five * 10:31 HalberdBanryu Oh Kanade and Kaede, lol there's a lot nevermind * 10:32 Super Shmevan Tsukiyomi * 10:32 HalberdBanryu OK OK... * 10:32 Super Shmevan Dude, there are like a million * 10:32 Lenalia Row lol * 10:32 HalberdBanryu lol * 10:33 Super Shmevan Ok, what is the difference between a priest and a monk? * 10:33 HalberdBanryu A monk wanders and a priest does not? *totally made that up from context* * 10:33 Lenalia Row Monks travel, Priests stay at their temple.. I   believe.. >.> * 10:33 Lenalia Row lol * 10:34 Super Shmevan Ah, that makes sense * 10:34 Super Shmevan and you both came up with the exact same answer, ha * 10:34 HalberdBanryu But they do the same thing so I think they can be put in the same category. * 10:34 Super Shmevan So, would it be "Priests and Monks" ? * 10:34 HalberdBanryu I thought we had Priests and Priestesses? * 10:35 Super Shmevan We do * 10:35 Super Shmevan Do you like Nobility better? * 10:35 Lenalia Row Miko = Priestesses, so that's effectively gone * 10:35 HalberdBanryu Then monks and priests, yes. * 10:35 HalberdBanryu Since Miko takes care of the female counterpart. * 10:37 Super Shmevan Daimyos are lords right? * 10:37 Lenalia Row yes * 10:37 Super Shmevan How many lords are there? I can only think of   Kuranosuke and Sara Asano's father * 10:37 Lenalia Row We currently have that category * 10:38 Lenalia Row Category:Daimyō  * 10:38 Super Shmevan Oh yeah. * 10:38 Super Shmevan Well, I guess we have plenty of lords * 10:38 Super Shmevan What about samurais? * 10:39 HalberdBanryu Guy who killed Bankotsu, Akitoki... Ummmmmm * 10:39 Super Shmevan What is the name of the guy who killed Bankotsu? I don't think we have an article for him, do we? * 10:39 Super Shmevan I actually forgot about his existence until you just mentioned him... * 10:40 Lenalia Row O-Yakata , though I question his naming * 10:40 Super Shmevan Oh, that's him? * 10:40 Super Shmevan Wasn't there another guy * 10:40 Lenalia Row Apparently * 10:40 HalberdBanryu He doesn't exist in the Manga, just the lord who gets his head cut off. * 10:40 HalberdBanryu The guy who sounds like darth vader and says "Damn you!" and gets killed right after a butterfly. * 10:40 HalberdBanryu lol * 10:41 Super Shmevan 'O-Yakata' is a lord isn't he? * 10:41 Lenalia Row mhm * 10:41 Super Shmevan No! the guy I'm thinking of was like the general of that lord's army * 10:41 HalberdBanryu I thought he was just the general who got the band of seven executed. Do they say he's a lord? o.o * 10:42 Super Shmevan Yeah he was * 10:42 Lenalia Row That's what his article says * 10:42 Lenalia Row No references though :3 * 10:42 HalberdBanryu Oh oh so he's the lord. Then we don't have an   article for the general who sounds like darth vader. * 10:42 Super Shmevan The general I'm thinking of is like a younger guy * 10:42 Super Shmevan Yeah * 10:42 Super Shmevan that's the one * 10:42 Lenalia Row Gettting kindof off topic :3 * 10:42 HalberdBanryu Sorry. :P * 10:42 Lenalia Row Not to ruin the fun or anything v.v * 10:43 Super Shmevan Sorry D:  * 10:43 HalberdBanryu Okay, so we should start a Samurai category? * 10:43 Lenalia Row lol, np. We just eliminated the samurai category because it doesn't have 4+ * 10:43 Super Shmevan That's what I was trying to figure out :P * 10:43 HalberdBanryu Excel entei. * 10:43 Super Shmevan I can only think of like 3 * 10:44 Super Shmevan What's next? * 10:44 HalberdBanryu We're doing Ninja since we have at least 5, doing Miko, Priests and Monks, Mercenaries. * 10:44 HalberdBanryu Do we need Bandits? * 10:44 Lenalia Row I have a suggestion. * 10:45 Super Shmevan Mhm? * 10:46 Lenalia Row Rather than discussing these specific things, we   discuss the generals (like individuals by ability/profession/etc.) and, since we already know we cant have a category with less than 4 people, we can figure out the individual categories at a later time.. * 10:46 HalberdBanryu Sounds good. * 10:47 Super Shmevan Alright * 10:47 Lenalia Row So, any other comments (perhaps on the Real world   categories or anything?) * 10:48 HalberdBanryu New topic besides categorization would be   splendid @_@ * 10:48 Lenalia Row lol, okay. We can move on :) * 10:48 Lenalia Row Reference policy?  * 10:49 Super Shmevan We really need to get our referenced information    in order  * 10:49 Super Shmevan We have so many articles that don't even have    references  * 10:50 Lenalia Row Hence why I made that draft of a reference policy..  * 10:50 HalberdBanryu The only reference necessary for a Manga    chapter/Anime episode is the chapter/episode itself. So I'm    gooooooood lol. But it would get very cluttered if every sentence in    a character page was referenced. Why don't we go by section, if    that's possible.  * 10:52 Super Shmevan True, we don't necessarily need them in chapter    or episode articles but I was referring more to character articles  * 10:52 Lenalia Row I'm pretty sure that policy I drafted mentions    that somewhere.. "Although everything on the InuYasha Wiki must be    attributable, in practice not all material is attributed. Editors need only provide attribution for material that is challenged or   likely to be challenged, or it may be removed."  * 10:52 Super Shmevan Yeah, I read that earlier :)  * 10:52 Lenalia Row SO, that covers it I think.  * 10:53 Lenalia Row Is there anything it doesn't cover, then? :)  * 10:53 Lenalia Row Or can it be implemented as is?  * 10:53 Super Shmevan I believe so  * 10:53 HalberdBanryu Works for me.  * 10:54 Super Shmevan So, onto number three?  * 10:54 Lenalia Row M'kay, next for discussion is... can we leave the    naming policy stuff 'till later? it's rather lengthy, lol  * 10:54 HalberdBanryu Agreed.  * 10:54 Super Shmevan Heh, sounds good  * 10:55 Lenalia Row Yay! Should we have a message wall? ._.  * 10:55 HalberdBanryu For what purpose?  * 10:56 Lenalia Row Instead of a talk page.. I just thought it might    be a bit more organized. Because sometimes users will post replies on their own talk page instead of continuing on the other user's   page, so you don't get a notification.. * 10:57 Lenalia Row With a message wall, the entire discussion would be on one person's page.. * 10:57 Lenalia Row unless you guys think that'd be worse * 10:57 Super Shmevan Honestly I don't have much of a preference. A   message wall would probably be easier for people to understand if    they aren't familiar with talk pages * 10:57 HalberdBanryu If we had a lot of users it would cause chaos but we have like, 10 people who actually do stuff here. Let's do the message wall lol * 10:58 Super Shmevan Let's do it * 10:58 Lenalia Row Awesome :) I'm implementing now, lol.  * 10:59 Lenalia Row And, as you can see, we're not halfway done, yet    over an hour has passed.. so I suggest these meetings happen more    frequently, so there's less on the agenda..  * 11:00 HalberdBanryu Indeed indeed indeed.  * 11:00 Super Shmevan I concur  * 11:00 Lenalia Row How often, is the question..  * 11:01 HalberdBanryu I think very often for a few times so we can get    all this stuff off the agenda. And then less frequently. Like every    few months.  * 11:02 Lenalia Row This is currently what happens when its every few    months, though.  * 11:03 Super Shmevan Yeah, the last one was in like May or something  * 11:03 HalberdBanryu That isn't a few months that's like 9 months lol  * 11:03 HalberdBanryu Every 2?  * 11:03 Lenalia Row lol, I think 2 would be alright. Thoughts, Evan? * 11:04 Super Shmevan That sounds fine to me * 11:04 Super Shmevan But, do you think we should have the *next* one two months from now? * 11:04 Super Shmevan Or sooner? * 11:04 HalberdBanryu No. Sooner. * 11:04 Super Shmevan I agree * 11:04 HalberdBanryu Like I said until we get all the stuff off the agenda. * 11:04 Lenalia Row M'kay. * 11:04 HalberdBanryu Then at each 2 month one there won't be so much to deal with. * 11:04 Lenalia Row Sounds good * 11:05 Lenalia Row And during that time between 2 months, if there's   anything we'd like to urgently discuss? I was thinking forums, but we don't seem to use those often at all.. * 11:05 Lenalia Row T.T * 11:06 HalberdBanryu Bat signal. * 11:06 Super Shmevan True, but if an urgent topic came up in a forum I think we would discuss it * 11:06 Super Shmevan Even though no one ever posts on the forum * 11:06 Super Shmevan The same goes for blogs, too * 11:07 HalberdBanryu Except for people saying how they won't be   around to do nothing >>U * 11:09 Lenalia Row lol, well, I posted in a forum about a discussion topic v.v but it's not necessarily urgent * 11:09 Lenalia Row Anyhoo, should we turn off blogs since no one uses them? Or they use them for random stuff? * 11:09 Lenalia Row ? --> / * 11:09 HalberdBanryu Leave them on? * 11:10 Super Shmevan Eh, random users will post something on the blogs every once in a while.. but it's usually a long while * 11:10 Lenalia Row Blogs are optional, Banryu * 11:10 Lenalia Row Well, we don't have any policies governing them right now, so technically, they could practically post whatever they wanted. * 11:12 Super Shmevan Should we create a policy for blogs then? * 11:13 Lenalia Row if we intend to allow users to continue using them * 11:13 Lenalia Row then yes, I think we would need a policy * 11:13 Super Shmevan Haha, oh * 11:13 Lenalia Row Not necessarily draft it right now, lol * 11:14 Lenalia Row But we'd need to figure out what purpose users can have them for.. * 11:15 HalberdBanryu That'll be difficult. * 11:15 Lenalia Row Exactly, lol. * 11:15 Super Shmevan Well, frankly, they get used so little and we   are already a small community as it is, I'm struggling to think of a    relevant purpose * 11:15 Lenalia Row Mhm.. ^_^ * 11:15 Super Shmevan So, what you're saying is we should do away with the blogs? * 11:16 Lenalia Row Until the community grows * 11:16 Super Shmevan I like it * 11:16 Lenalia Row Blogs? * 11:16 Lenalia Row You want them to stay? * 11:16 Super Shmevan Oh, no. I meant I like your idea * 11:16 Super Shmevan let's get rid of them until the community grows * 11:17 Lenalia Row lol, ookay. Banryu? * 11:17 HalberdBanryu That's fine with me. ;3 * 11:18 Lenalia Row Does anyone use source mode aside from me? D: * 11:19 Lenalia Row I could've sworn it was forced on this wiki.. * 11:19 HalberdBanryu I do. Otherwise I get that shit everywhere. it's annoying. * 11:19 Lenalia Row And images in the middle of words xD * 11:19 HalberdBanryu It's forced on articles with a lot of    information. Like Sesshomaru or Inuyasha's articles. Small articles don't require it. * 11:19 Super Shmevan Yeah I only use source mode * 11:20 Lenalia Row This is an old topic, but does anyone use the preloads? :3 * 11:20 Super Shmevan What are the preloads? * 11:21 HalberdBanryu I have no idea what those are, so no. >_> * 11:21 Lenalia Row have y'all seen the dropdown beneath the edit summary box? * 11:21 Super Shmevan Yep * 11:22 Lenalia Row Ever tried choosing one? * 11:22 Super Shmevan Oh wow, I didn't even know about this! * 11:22 Lenalia Row :3 * 11:23 HalberdBanryu Useful. Yay. :3 * 11:23 Super Shmevan What exactly did you want to address about the preloads? * 11:24 Lenalia Row I wanted to know if anyone knew about them/used them :3 * 11:24 Lenalia Row And now I know, lol * 11:24 Super Shmevan Haha :D * 11:24 Lenalia Row The OSTs are Ryoga's topic, so we'll skip that for now * 11:24 Lenalia Row Battles... * 11:24 Super Shmevan Battle articles? * 11:25 HalberdBanryu I'm on the fence about those. * 11:25 Lenalia Row Yes, Evan. Battle articles. * 11:25 Lenalia Row dun dun DUNH * 11:25 Lenalia Row Why're you on the fence? * 11:26 HalberdBanryu Chapters/Episodes pretty much ARE those battles. So why make an article what those pages already describe, in great detail? * 11:26 Lenalia Row o.o * 11:26 Lenalia Row ...  * 11:27 Lenalia Row I... I don't know... * 11:27 HalberdBanryu :3 * 11:27 HalberdBanryu There are maybe 3 or 4 that could be   significant, like Battle at The Borderland, The Final Battle, Mt    Hakurei. * 11:27 Lenalia Row :/ * Ryoga04 has joined the chat. * 11:27 Super Shmevan I don't know, there are a lot of battles * 11:27 Lenalia Row Ryoga! * 11:28 HalberdBanryu But those could just go under the details in the actual locations themselves. * 11:28 HalberdBanryu Hello Ryoga! * 11:28 Super Shmevan Hi Ryoga! * 11:28 Lenalia Row Yay. :3 * 11:28 Ryoga04 Hey guys! Sorry I couldn't make it! I have been struck down with a flu :( * 11:28 HalberdBanryu That sucks. o.o I hope you get to feeling better.  * 11:29 Super Shmevan Sorry Ryoga-kun :( * 11:29 Ryoga04 Had to face the syringes lol. Tons of pills too :D * 11:29 Super Shmevan Haha * 11:29 Lenalia Row No problem, Ryoga. Feel better :3 * 11:29 Ryoga04 So, where are we guys? * 11:29 Lenalia Row Battles, we just decided to put off OSTs until you came * 11:29 Ryoga04 I see. * 11:29 HalberdBanryu In the feudal era, when ancient pharohs played a   game great and of terrible power; the shadow games. * 11:30 HalberdBanryu Oh crud, I botched that up. * 11:31 Lenalia Row lol, we'll get back to OSTs after Battles. Are you up to participating, Ryoga? :) * 11:31 Ryoga04 Yeah, no probs.  * 11:32 HalberdBanryu I think I just made battle articles obsolete,    though. ;D  * 11:32 Ryoga04 I just noticed that Banryu has been made our new    administrator. Congrats buddy :) * 11:32 Lenalia Row Well, Banryu was just pointing out the uselessness of battle articles >.> * 11:33 HalberdBanryu Yay. Thank you, Ryoga. :3 * 11:34 HalberdBanryu But if the chapters/episodes lack detail, then I'd understand why we would want the battles. We just have to get those brimming with detail so that battle articles become unnecessary. * 11:34 Ryoga04 The InuYasha Profiles has a description of battles and the outcomes till the Shichinintai arc. We could use it as a source if we're creating Battle articles. * 11:36 Lenalia Row Its not very descriptive, Ryoga. There's only a   few trivia points, really.. * 11:37 HalberdBanryu And it's weird that it stops after the Band of   Seven. Most of the awesome battles come after that lol. * 11:37 Ryoga04 You're right Row. So what should we do? * 11:37 Lenalia Row Well, the profiles book was made after the shichinintai arc, I believe * 11:38 Lenalia Row so it only showed the story up to that point * 11:38 Lenalia Row Maybe we should put off battle articles... * 11:38 Ryoga04 Yeah, maybe till Hyoga returns. * 11:39 HalberdBanryu Or just not do them at all? >_> * 11:40 Lenalia Row That, too. As in, wait to discuss them until another time.. maybe we should put our focus on the episode/chapter articles. * 11:40 Ryoga04 Yes, I think so too. * 11:41 HalberdBanryu I pointed out earlier that chapters are almost half the pages on the wiki, so... yeah.... * 11:41 Ryoga04 How many items have we discussed so far btw? * 11:41 Lenalia Row And, as Banryu said, once they're detailed in   those chapters/episode articles, we won't really have a need for battle articles. * 11:41 Lenalia Row We've discussed... lol, like 8 or 9? * 11:41 Lenalia Row maybe? * 11:41 HalberdBanryu Not very many it feels like lol * 11:42 Super Shmevan I'd say about 8 * 11:42 Lenalia Row OSTs are next, Ryoga. Take it away. * 11:42 Ryoga04 Can someone give me the outcomes at the end of the discussion? * 11:42 Lenalia Row :P * 11:42 Lenalia Row Yes, Ryoga * 11:43 Lenalia Row I always make the minutes and text (like here   )
 * 9:46 Lenalia Row First up is the category proposition, which is

* 11:43 Ryoga04 OSTs. Okay. * 11:43 Ryoga04 So, you guys might've seen how the OSTs arranged, right? * 11:44 HalberdBanryu No track listing. Not ideal. * 11:44 Ryoga04 Many characters have their own 'theme track' as I'd   like to call them. I think we should create articles for them. * 11:45 Lenalia Row Character songs, you mean.. :) * 11:45 HalberdBanryu Or do you mean Kaoru Wada themes.  * 11:45 Ryoga04 Without vocals, yes.  * 11:45 Ryoga04 Yes Wada's compositions.  * 11:45 HalberdBanryu Like The White Child, Devious Yokai Naraku, Two    Faced Suikotsu, lol. *has them all ffffffffff*  * 11:46 Ryoga04 Yes Banryu :D  * 11:46 Super Shmevan What would go on these articles?  * 11:46 Ryoga04 A video link and maybe a short description of the    character?  * 11:47 Lenalia Row Video link, or an actual video?  * 11:47 HalberdBanryu Video-link could prove troublesome if stuff got    removed from YT or something.  * 11:47 Super Shmevan Indeed  * 11:47 Super Shmevan We don't actually have videos on our articles,    do we?  * 11:48 Ryoga04 That is a problem. Wikia doesn't allow websites other    than Youtube?  * 11:48 HalberdBanryu I have Mp3 files of all the tracks, if that's at    all helpful. :3  * 11:48 Lenalia Row No, but its possible to upload videos... though we   have no policy of those v.v  * 11:48 Ryoga04 I have them too :D * 11:48 Ryoga04 MP3s I mean * 11:48 Lenalia Row *No to Evan, Wikia allows other than YT, I   believe, and MP3s might help * 11:49 Lenalia Row Technicalities ;3 fun * 11:49 HalberdBanryu Well I have volume 3, too... which is rare, for some reason. * 11:49 Super Shmevan It's the only one I don't have :( * 11:49 Ryoga04 Volume 3?  * 11:49 Super Shmevan OST 3  * 11:49 Lenalia Row xD  * 11:49 Ryoga04 I have all the OSTs including the movie OSTs :D  * 11:49 HalberdBanryu It isn't online, that's why I had to buy it for    insane amounts of money. Like $120. All because I wanted that    f***ing Hakudoshi theme lol  * 11:50 Ryoga04 Did you try CDJapan?  * 11:50 Super Shmevan Oh yeah I think I remember you told me that last    time we talked :P  * 11:50 Super Shmevan No! is it reliable?  * 11:50 Ryoga04 Yeah, I bought it from there lol  * 11:50 Super Shmevan Ohh.. you *bought* it, eh :D  * 11:50 Ryoga04 the BEST version  * 11:51 Ryoga04 all the OP/EDs  * 11:51 Super Shmevan Sorry Row we're kind of getting off topic  * 11:51 Lenalia Row Np  * 11:51 Lenalia Row lol  * 11:51 Ryoga04 Okay, coming back. So, what do you guys think?  * 11:52 Lenalia Row I think we can have pages on them, I'm just not so    sure about the videos atm. We should try to have more than just a   character description, though.. is there any more information that can be provided about them? Like instrumentation and all that jazz? * 11:53 Lenalia Row (I have no clue what I'm talking about, by the   way.. never listened to them, unfortunately v.v)  * 11:53 Ryoga04 If we have someone with knowledge in music, yes. You've studied music, right Row? * 11:54 Lenalia Row Yes, but I think you should look at Banryu.. * 11:54 HalberdBanryu Lol majoring in Music History. Music nerd here... * 11:54 Ryoga04 Lol, how come you never told us? * 11:54 Lenalia Row ^_^ he told me, lol * 11:55 HalberdBanryu I did to somebody. I think. * 11:55 HalberdBanryu lol * 11:55 Super Shmevan Hehe :D * 11:55 Super Shmevan I knew too somehow * 11:55 Ryoga04 You left me out :( Not fair bud. * 11:55 Lenalia Row :/ uh oh  * 11:55 Super Shmevan For some reason he specifically said not to tell    Ryoga  * 11:55 HalberdBanryu Not funny, Shmevan. :P  * 11:55 Lenalia Row Evan, you weren't supposed to say that!  * 11:56 Lenalia Row oops..  * 11:56 Super Shmevan Hehe, jk :) * 11:56 Lenalia Row lol * 11:56 Ryoga04 NOOOO! My heart is... Lol. It's ok Banryu. Maybe you just forgot. :) * 11:56 HalberdBanryu Music history student by day, Inuyasha fanatic    by night?  * 11:57 Ryoga04 Haha, sounds great. Maybe I should major in Music    history too  * 11:57 HalberdBanryu Lol anyway. Most of the character themes are in    sets of 2 or 3. One is usually slow, for like emotional scenes, and    another is fast for like, action scenes.  * 11:57 Lenalia Row Anyhoo, if you can come up with a page layout,    Ryoga, I think we can definitely agree to make pages on them, yes?  * 11:57 HalberdBanryu I have to write a lot of papers. But I find most    of them fascinating, so it's cool. :3  * 11:57 Ryoga04 So, what do you think? Banryu, can you do it for us?  * 11:58 Ryoga04 If we do create articles on them, we'd be the first    wiki to have an analysis on OSTs. COOL!  * 11:58 HalberdBanryu Sure. I'd love to. :3 I'm worried about titles    though because the English translations are always sketchy and different. * 11:58 Super Shmevan Should we use Japanese titles then? * 11:58 Lenalia Row Japanese titles! * 11:59 Lenalia Row duh :P silly Banryu * 11:59 HalberdBanryu LOST wiki has actual sheet music. :P (one of my   favorite TV shows, so I know). * 11:59 Ryoga04 So Japanese titles then. I don't think there are sheet music for tracks from InuYasha except for Omoi no Hate ni * 12:00 Super Shmevan I was just about to mention that track.. * 12:00 Ryoga04 If everyone's okay with my proposal, can I suggest teh page layout too? * 12:00 HalberdBanryu Is that the Kagome/Inuyasha love theme that has like a million different variations? * 12:00 Super Shmevan Yes!!! * 12:00 Ryoga04 ^Great track. Right Evan? * 12:00 Super Shmevan And yes * 12:00 Super Shmevan One of my favorites for sure * 12:01 Super Shmevan And you should definitely propose the page layout Ryoga * 12:01 Lenalia Row Ryoga, yes. Create a page layout proposal :) * 12:01 Ryoga04 For tracks that are variations, you don't have to do    describe their composition in detail Banryu. Just link to the    original track.  * 12:01 HalberdBanryu Awesome awesome awesome. I can write about the    form of each theme then, if you like. And even distinguish what key    signature/instruments they use, if we want. :P  * 12:02 Ryoga04 ^Anything technical (esp music) is always welcome :) * 12:02 HalberdBanryu Yay. What's next on our agenda? * 12:02 Lenalia Row page layouts ;) * 12:03 Lenalia Row that was only if we had any other types of    articles we wanted  * 12:03 Ryoga04 So, the page layout could be something like this:    Intro / Character(or situation) description / Structure (or Composition) / Notes (if any. like variations) / External link   (preferably to amazon or something like that). What do you say?  * 12:04 HalberdBanryu Prominent use. Like "A love scene between    Inuyasha/Kagome" "Battles" "Naraku doing something evil"... or    something?  * 12:04 Ryoga04 Yep, that too. Great! Banryu, can you create short    analysis sections for the TV OP/ED and character songs too?  * 12:05 Ryoga04 Everyone?  * 12:05 HalberdBanryu I can do that.  * 12:05 Ryoga04 Great. Thanks. So Row, what's next?  * 12:05 Lenalia Row Ryoga, when you get the chance, be sure to make an    actual pl like the page layouts     we have now, yes? That    way we'll actually be able to see it, too :) * 12:06 Lenalia Row Next is manga images * 12:06 Ryoga04 Yep, sure Row. * 12:07 Ryoga04 What about them Row? * 12:07 Lenalia Row blanking, horizontal flipping.. and something else about relevance? * 12:08 Super Shmevan Is this Banryu's topic? * 12:08 Lenalia Row The blanking is mine, the rest I believe is Banryu's * 12:08 Super Shmevan hmm, blanking, as in removing text from the text bubbles? * 12:09 Lenalia Row Yes. It bugs me when I see chapter images that have bad fan translations, or misspellings. * 12:09 Lenalia Row Things different from the actual manga is supposed to be * 12:09 Super Shmevan I agree. I think it would be a good idea to   blank the text * 12:09 Ryoga04 Yeah, plus they're scanlation (= copyright violation   if they're licensed) * 12:09 Super Shmevan uh oh * 12:09 Lenalia Row It'd just take a bunch of work * 12:09 Lenalia Row (tons of wikia do that, though ._.) * 12:10 HalberdBanryu Kind of. Chapter 341  Look at the second image here. Should Hakudoshi be tagged in this image? This is the kind of question I have. When the character is so blurred and the quality of the character's image is small, should they be tagged in   that image? * 12:10 Lenalia Row Mhm. * 12:10 Ryoga04 @Row: I can blank images (I love doing it). * 12:11 HalberdBanryu Row, you think they should still be tagged? * 12:11 Lenalia Row Yes, I do. Its the weapons I have reservations about tagging. * 12:11 Super Shmevan Yeah, good point. Like, should Tessaiga be   tagged if Inuyasha is merely holding it in its sheath? * 12:11 HalberdBanryu I've only been tagging when they're good and show all or most of the weapon. * 12:12 Lenalia Row Unless the swords are out and such, I don't think those should be tagged. Cuz they're always at Sessh's hips, lol * 12:12 Lenalia Row or inuyasha's * 12:12 Lenalia Row And that's good with me, Banryu :)  * 12:12 HalberdBanryu And Hiraikotsu is ALWAYS on Sango's back. So....  * 12:13 Lenalia Row But that things huge, so its always visible. :3  * 12:13 Ryoga04 Yeah.  * 12:13 Super Shmevan I've been tagging Miroku's staff in most    pictures where you can see the top of it, with the gold rings and such  * 12:14 Lenalia Row Anyhoo, blanking images. You're okay with taking    that on Ryoga?  * 12:15 Ryoga04 Yep, I'll do it.  * 12:15 Lenalia Row Next up is horizontal flipping. Take it away    Banryu :3  * 12:16 Super Shmevan What is this 'horizontal flipping' you speak of?  * 12:16 HalberdBanryu So, the first 37 volumes are R-L, and 38-56 are    L-R. So in Volume 37 Sesshomaru's crescent moon is facing the wrong    way, and he has the wrong arm lol. So my question is, if we're going    to be blanking text anyway, should we just flip every image from 1-37 so it's facing the right way? * 12:17 HalberdBanryu They just mirrored the image so it's able to be   read R-L. * 12:17 HalberdBanryu Did I just make any sense? >_> * 12:17 Lenalia Row How about using japanese raws for the first 37? Because otherwise, wont sound effects be backwards? * 12:18 HalberdBanryu True but a lot of the first 37 volumes have scans in English. File:Sesshomaru'sFirstReplacementArm-C59.jpg 

* 12:19 HalberdBanryu So English sound effects. * 12:19 HalberdBanryu VIZ just had to change their mind halfway through and cause my OCD to flare up. >:C * 12:19 Lenalia Row It is annoying, ain't it >.> * 12:20 Lenalia Row I figure to heck with it, just flip them.. Anyone else object? * 12:20 Super Shmevan I don't have any issues with it * 12:20 Ryoga04 Me too. * 12:20 Ryoga04 No issues. * 12:20 HalberdBanryu Awesome. Super Duper. * 12:21 Lenalia Row next thing, about the relevance, Banryu? * 12:21 HalberdBanryu That was the Hakudoshi 341 Question, and you said just tag anyway. We're all good. :3 * 12:22 Lenalia Row ah, I see. lol, moving on, then * 12:22 HalberdBanryu :P * 12:22 Ryoga04 Next on the list is..? * 12:22 Lenalia Row Demon → yōkai * 12:22 HalberdBanryu Demon = Yokai? * 12:22 Lenalia Row ._. * 12:22 HalberdBanryu Yup lo * 12:22 Ryoga04 Nope Banryu. Demon =/= Yokai * 12:23 Super Shmevan So, replacing every instance of the word demon with yōkai? * 12:23 HalberdBanryu I use both in the chapter articles just to avoid repetition. * 12:24 Lenalia Row I would like that, though I know it would be   difficult. * 12:24 Super Shmevan Yeah, I use both to avoid repetition too. * 12:24 HalberdBanryu Same with Hanyo and Half-demon. * 12:24 Super Shmevan On the same note, should we try using only Japanese names? * 12:24 Lenalia Row We skipped the naming thing, lol * 12:24 Super Shmevan Oh yeah * 12:24 Lenalia Row I guess we should go back to it * 12:25 Lenalia Row Now would be an appropriate time * 12:25 Ryoga04 Naming policy? * 12:25 Super Shmevan Indeed * 12:25 HalberdBanryu Let's vote on something real quick? Akago or The Infant? * 12:25 Super Shmevan Infant * 12:25 Super Shmevan !!!!!!!!!! * 12:25 Ryoga04 Akago!!! * 12:25 Super Shmevan its up to Row... * 12:25 Lenalia Row :o * 12:25 Super Shmevan (infant) * 12:25 Lenalia Row Akago sounds like a name * 12:25 HalberdBanryu Since I have 4 hands, I should be allowed to   vote twice. * 12:26 Super Shmevan Damnit! * 12:26 Super Shmevan If only Hyoga was here * 12:26 Super Shmevan He'd take my side * 12:26 Ryoga04 He'd totally win :D * 12:26 HalberdBanryu Lol we can leave it off the table. In the Manga they call him Akago for like 4 chapters and then call him the infant for the rest. So........... way to go, Viz. lol * 12:26 Lenalia Row Power play! D: * 12:26 Lenalia Row They do? :o * 12:27 Super Shmevan Isn't "Akago" Japanese for Infant? * 12:27 Lenalia Row You know, the InuYasha profiles book lists him on   the same page as Hakudoshi. * 12:27 Ryoga04 Akago means child, I think. * 12:27 Lenalia Row So then I started thinking isn't he infant Hakudoshi? * 12:27 Lenalia Row lol, too much confusion * 12:27 HalberdBanryu Yeah. They do that a lot. First few volumes they're 'Venom wasps" and "Boomerangbone!" then they're "Saimyosho and Hiraikotsu. CONFUSION * 12:28 HalberdBanryu Inuception * 12:28 Super Shmevan I just got that * 12:28 HalberdBanryu xD * 12:28 Lenalia Row That's why we prefer the Japanese name, so I    guess... Akago would win, but...  * 12:28 Ryoga04 The kanji is 赤子. If Viz uses Infant throughout the comic, then I have no objection of using that. * 12:28 Lenalia Row Dangit Banryu! ._. * 12:29 Lenalia Row You interrupted talk of the naming policy * 12:29 Lenalia Row That would sort this whole thing out * 12:29 HalberdBanryu *puppy dog face* * 12:29 Ryoga04 Hyoga would kill me if we use Akago again... * 12:29 Super Shmevan Hehehe * 12:29 HalberdBanryu Then The Infant he shall be. * 12:29 Super Shmevan Just do it guys, see what happens * 12:29 Lenalia Row lol, okay. SOOOOO * 12:30 Super Shmevan Are we still on naming policy? * 12:30 Lenalia Row We're getting to it now. There used to be a time when we didn't use macrons all over the wiki. * 12:30 Lenalia Row It would just be Sesshomaru or Myoga. * 12:30 Lenalia Row And its in the naming policy * 12:30 Lenalia Row Obviously, that's changed. * 12:30 Ryoga04 Yes * 12:30 Super Shmevan So it wouldnt even be 'Sesshoumaru'? * 12:31 Lenalia Row Nope, InuYasha Wiki:Naming policy  * 12:32 HalberdBanryu Changing the whole wiki without macrons, not it. The policy might as well change. Hyoga even went through and added macrons to stuff. So why is this the naming policy still? * 12:32 Lenalia Row exactly. That's what I'm saying. * 12:32 Super Shmevan So, we should change it then, yeah? * 12:32 Lenalia Row I only happened across it recently, and figured it   needed to be brought to attention * 12:32 HalberdBanryu Then let's change it. Rah rah rah. * 12:33 Ryoga04 *nods* Yes, we should change it. * 12:33 Lenalia Row Wouldn't other names need to change, too? * 12:33 Super Shmevan Like what? * 12:34 Ryoga04 Hey, OT. Isn't it late in your place guys? * 12:34 Lenalia Row I feel like this is wrong, but I've seen an ō in   Mirōku before * 12:34 Ryoga04 It's wrong Row. * 12:34 Super Shmevan I've also seen an ō in Kōhaku * 12:35 Ryoga04 It's wrong too :D * 12:35 HalberdBanryu Agreed with Ryoga. * 12:35 HalberdBanryu >_> * 12:35 Super Shmevan Ryoga, it's not too late in my place; it's only 11:35 :P * 12:35 Lenalia Row It's 12:35 here.. I dunno if I'll be able to make it... D= * 12:36 Super Shmevan Gettin' sleepy? * 12:36 Ryoga04 We could wrap up for today. I will be able to make it   tomorrow. We don't have a lot to discuss now.] * 12:36 HalberdBanryu *uses poke-flute on Rowan* * 12:36 Lenalia Row I have a bedtime ^^" yeah.. but I could always * 12:36 Lenalia Row *ask for more time -.-  * 12:36 Super Shmevan Heh, I thought you fell asleep mid sentence  * 12:37 Lenalia Row lol  * 12:37 Ryoga04 Haha, lol  * 12:37 HalberdBanryu I can make it tomorrow at about 8 ish.  * 12:37 Lenalia Row xD anyhoo, we don't have to end it now, guys  * 12:37 HalberdBanryu CST >_>  * 12:37 Super Shmevan Haha :D so whats next?  * 12:37 Ryoga04 If it's okay with you, okay. Let's proceed.  * 12:38 HalberdBanryu I'm up for more. ;3  * 12:38 Super Shmevan We've actually gotten a decent amount done  * 12:38 Lenalia Row I saw Princess Abi... and had to change it back to    Abi  * 12:38 Lenalia Row Since when did we start putting titles in pagenames ?  * 12:38 HalberdBanryu D: But she's a princess!!  * 12:39 Lenalia Row And Kikyo is a Lady!  * 12:39 HalberdBanryu So she says.  * 12:39 Lenalia Row xD  * 12:39 Super Shmevan I don't know, maybe because Abi is often referred to as "Princess Abi" * 12:39 Super Shmevan Tsuyu doesn't have princess in her name though * 12:39 Lenalia Row Never heard "Lady Kikyo" or "Lady Kanade" * 12:39 Lenalia Row ? * 12:39 HalberdBanryu Everyone calls her Princess Abi in the Manga, except for her mother and Inuyasha. * 12:39 Ryoga04 I can't remember. When I first joined, we used to have Princess Tsuyu and Princess Abi. * 12:40 Super Shmevan Abi was actually changed to "Princess Abi" back in the summer, according to the edit history, and the person who changed the name seems pretty convinced * 12:40 Lenalia Row link? * 12:40 Ryoga04 link to diff? * 12:41 Super Shmevan Abi?diff=53081&oldid=52946  * 12:41 Lenalia Row lol * 12:41 Super Shmevan I mean, not that it's right, but MrAnonymous seems to think he's correct * 12:41 Lenalia Row When you said pretty convinced, I thought you meant they went on a rant or something * 12:41 Super Shmevan Haha * 12:41 Super Shmevan Nah * 12:42 HalberdBanryu I'm 99% certain she's referred to Princess Abi more often than just Abi. * 12:42 Ryoga04 Actually do we have a policy Row? * 12:42 Lenalia Row On what, Ryoga * 12:42 Super Shmevan "Princess Abi, the firey bird master" * 12:42 Ryoga04 using honorifics? * 12:43 Lenalia Row If we did, it would be part of the Naming policy * 12:43 HalberdBanryu Naraku even calls her Princess Abi when he's   about to murder her! * 12:43 HalberdBanryu lol * 12:43 Ryoga04 Serena moved the article to Abi in 2011. * 12:43 Lenalia Row Btw, it's not like throughout Abi's article it's   always "Princess Abi" did this and "Princess Abi" dodged that * 12:44 Ryoga04 Lol * 12:44 HalberdBanryu Yes, but I think her official title should be   Princess Abi. But that's just me. * 12:44 Lenalia Row Lady Kanade is always referred to as Lady Kanade * 12:44 Lenalia Row During her brief mention * 12:44 HalberdBanryu Except by Ryura. * 12:45 Lenalia Row ._. fair enough.. * 12:45 HalberdBanryu ;D * 12:45 HalberdBanryu Everybody has an exception. I just think Abi is   refered to as princess more than by purely her name, * 12:46 Lenalia Row If you guys outvote me, there's no grudge, lol. I   just went by what it used to be. xD and as ryoga pointed out, no   policy (I don't think). * 12:46 Lenalia Row so what'll it be, people? * 12:46 Ryoga04 Abi could be made an exception (she ain't no princess   to me though) * 12:46 HalberdBanryu If we're voting, I'll vote Princess Abi, but it's no big deal lol. * 12:47 Lenalia Row lol, Ryoga * 12:47 Lenalia Row Feel free to move it back if you'd like, as you said, it's no big deal :) * 12:47 Ryoga04 So, do we have a consensus?  * 12:48 Ryoga04 Where's Evan?  * 12:48 Super Shmevan Eh, I guess I'll vote for Princess Abi  * 12:48 Lenalia Row But if she's an exception, she'll need to be an    exception to something. So should we add something to the naming    policy about honorifics/titles?  * 12:48 Super Shmevan Though I don't particularly think either is more    correct than the other  * 12:49 Ryoga04 Haha, there you are. So Rowan, what's next>  * 12:49 Ryoga04 ?  * 12:49 Lenalia Row honorifics portion to the naming policy? x.x  * 12:49 Lenalia Row should there be one?  * 12:50 HalberdBanryu Oh dear. I honestly have no strong feelings one    way or the other.  * 12:50 Ryoga04 No, imo. Except Abi...  * 12:50 Ryoga04 And Kikyo, maybe??? lol  * 12:50 HalberdBanryu So wait, did we just agree to rename Abi to    Princess Abi?  * 12:50 Lenalia Row I mean, like, should we have something that says "don't add honorifics.. except to abi" lol * 12:51 Lenalia Row yeah * 12:51 Ryoga04 Yeah. I haven't read the manga, so Banryu, does Tsuyu get called "Princess" in the manga? * 12:52 HalberdBanryu Well it's also the context. When talking about Rin and Jaken I use Lord Sesshomaru. Otherwise it's just Sesshomaru. * 12:52 HalberdBanryu I don't remember. Let me look! :D * 12:52 Lenalia Row I meant, when naming the article. Not referencing them, lol * 12:53 Ryoga04 A hatnote? * 12:53 Super Shmevan Well, how many characters might have an   honorific associated with their name besides Abi? * 12:53 HalberdBanryu He calls her princess Tsuyu. * 12:53 Lenalia Row Well, people might assume that since she's   Princess Abi, its okay to say Lady Kikyo or Lord Sesshōmaru * 12:53 Lenalia Row *to move the pages to * 12:54 HalberdBanryu I'll gladly reverse my vote to end this topic of    discussion lo, * 12:54 Ryoga04 We could move protect them? Is it available on Wikia? * 12:54 Ryoga04 @Banryu: I'm assuming Nobunaga? * 12:55 Lenalia Row Sorry, I'll drop it, Banryu :P not trying to argue anything, just asking if we should specify this stuff in the policy. Anyhoo, moving on.. * 12:55 HalberdBanryu Yes, Nobunaga. I didn't read the whole arc, I   just skimmed. Maybe Kags of Inu calls her just plain Tsuyu. I can check * 12:55 Ryoga04 We'll discuss it some other time then. * 12:56 HalberdBanryu Kagome calls her princess. * 12:56 HalberdBanryu Distinguishing anime/manga/movie exclusive information in articles * 12:56 Lenalia Row Final Act VS Kanketsu-hen * 12:57 HalberdBanryu Or that. :3 * 12:57 Super Shmevan Heh :)  * 12:57 Lenalia Row :3 sowwy  * 12:57 Super Shmevan What exactly about FA vs Kanketsu-hen?  * 12:57 HalberdBanryu It's higher on the list, Final act is fine. :3  * 12:57 Ryoga04 Final Act!!  * 12:57 Super Shmevan The preferred naming?  * 12:57 Lenalia Row People kept insisting we refer to it as    Kanketsu-hen, instead of Final Act.  * 12:58 Ryoga04 Why is that?  * 12:58 Lenalia Row So yes, preferred naing  * 12:58 Lenalia Row *naming  * 12:58 HalberdBanryu Who are these "people"? Why I oughta...  * 12:58 Super Shmevan Hmm, I feel like we could go either way  * 12:58 Lenalia Row Because it wasn't "official"  * 12:58 Super Shmevan Final Act certainly is easier..  * 12:58 Lenalia Row Even though I'm pretty sure it is..  * 12:58 Super Shmevan And this is the English Inu wiki after all  * 12:58 Ryoga04 Viz's title is Final Act, right?  * 12:58 Lenalia Row Yeah * 12:58 Ryoga04 It's official then. * 12:58 HalberdBanryu http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2010/03/30/3814724/0_InuyashaFinalActLogo.gif

* 12:58 HalberdBanryu >_> * 12:58 Lenalia Row exactly * 12:58 Super Shmevan boom * 12:59 Lenalia Row so its alright if I rename the page? * 12:59 Ryoga04 Yeah, sure. * 12:59 HalberdBanryu Please do. * 12:59 Super Shmevan Yes * 12:59 Lenalia Row moving on to what banryu said :3 * 1:00 Lenalia Row Distinguishing anime/manga/movie exclusive information in articles * 1:01 Ryoga04 I think Hyoga would have something to say on this topic, * 1:01 Super Shmevan I think it's a good idea * 1:01 Super Shmevan Didn't we mention this in the last one? * 1:01 Lenalia Row any ideas on how? References? * 1:01 Lenalia Row (I don't think I was here last time.. v.v) * 1:02 Ryoga04 No Row, we discussed something about a split? Manga/anime something like that, remember? * 1:02 Ryoga04 Evan and Banryu weren't present then. * 1:03 Lenalia Row ... when? * 1:03 Lenalia Row month? * 1:03 HalberdBanryu The Manga comes directly from R. Takahashi herself, so it's the 100% true source, followed closely by the Anime, which most of the time is almost identical, but with added content. I think most of the footnotes for the first half of the series need only (But in the Manga, blank. or But in the Anime,   blank.) >_> * 1:03 Ryoga04 I can't remember lol. And you said, we'll look into it. * 1:04 HalberdBanryu Final act is much more difficult because they changed a lot. * 1:04 Ryoga04 Yeah, and skipped a lot * 1:04 HalberdBanryu Exactly. * 1:05 Lenalia Row Hm.. * 1:05 Ryoga04 Subpages or something like that. * 1:05 Lenalia Row Subpages? o.o * 1:06 HalberdBanryu There's very little information that clashes, though. It's not like there's stuff in the Anime that discredits the Manga or vice versa. * 1:06 Ryoga04 Hyoga proposed that anime be given preference.. I can't   remember when the discussion took place!!! * 1:07 Lenalia Row so we just add both. But when there are discrepancies, we can add footnotes and have them list in the Manga vs Anime section? * 1:07 Ryoga04 I don't mind at all. * 1:07 HalberdBanryu I personally feel that the Anime should take precedence simply because it's more mainstream. * 1:08 Lenalia Row That would go against the canon policy.. but I   can't help but agree * 1:08 Ryoga04 ^Exactly. Me too. I'm sure atleast 80% of the InuYasha fans watched anime first. * 1:08 Super Shmevan Agreed * 1:09 HalberdBanryu Though the Manga is higher on the Hierarchy of   what's canon, the anime follows it pretty well. So I think it should be the main factor on the character pages. * 1:10 Super Shmevan Even for the characters who first appear in the Final Act? * 1:10 HalberdBanryu That's just it, we can add stuff from the Manga as well. * 1:10 Ryoga04 ^Sounds good to me. * 1:10 Super Shmevan Ah, ok, cool * 1:10 Lenalia Row I can agree to that * 1:11 HalberdBanryu Byakuya especially has tons of moments not included in the final act. * 1:11 Ryoga04 In such cases, manga > anime, right? * 1:11 Super Shmevan Yeah, actually his article seem to be written about what took place in the manga instead of the anime * 1:12 HalberdBanryu Precisely. But when they're mostly similar, like Inuyasha and Sesshomaru & gang, Anime > Manga, because you know.... * 1:12 HalberdBanryu Reasons * 1:12 Ryoga04 Yes. * 1:12 Lenalia Row But we still note manga stuff if it contradicts, yes? * 1:12 Lenalia Row *footnote * 1:12 Lenalia Row or no? ._. * 1:13 HalberdBanryu Yes. But that rarely happens. Usually it's stuff happens in one that didn't in another, or was omitted/added to the other. VERY rare that they contradict each other. Mostly just different. * 1:13 Ryoga04 We should note it anyway Banryu. * 1:13 Lenalia Row M'kay. Agreed. * 1:13 HalberdBanryu I know. I'm just saying it's a rarity. * 1:13 Ryoga04 Yeah, it is rare. * 1:13 Lenalia Row Should we move on then? * 1:13 HalberdBanryu Indeed. * 1:13 Ryoga04 I believe we can * 1:14 Lenalia Row In your chapter pages layout, Banryu, you said not to list characters that appear in flashbacks... but, I don't   understand why not. * 1:14 Lenalia Row They still appear in that chapter, and would be   noted as being in a flashback.. * 1:16 HalberdBanryu I don't think it's confusing to say Kagura appeared in this chapter when she died 100 chapters ago. When the character actually appears and does something in the story. But in a   flashback they don't do anything... * 1:16 Ryoga04 I don't think it's relevant to the chapter either Rowan. They appear in flashbacks. Flashbacks are just recollections of past happenings. * 1:16 HalberdBanryu * I do think it's confusing >_> * 1:16 Lenalia Row Oh, so the flashbacks aren't anything new to the story. Nothing that didn't happen before? * 1:17 Ryoga04 Yes, exactly. * 1:17 HalberdBanryu Exactly. 90% of the time it's "remember when   Naraku did this". * 1:17 Lenalia Row oh, okay. ^^ sorry, thanks for clearing that up, lol * 1:17 HalberdBanryu :3 * 1:17 Super Shmevan I have a question related to this subject actually, except for episode articles * 1:17 Lenalia Row M'kay * 1:19 Super Shmevan I was adding the characters in order of   appearance section to the episode articles, and I recently noticed that Jinie had removed "flashback" from my list --admittedly, in   some episodes I put A LOT of flashbacks-- and I wonder if I was using too many * 1:19 Lenalia Row Jinie has been removing a lot of flashbacks.. * 1:19 Super Shmevan Generally, in most Inuyasha episodes, they replay scenes from the previous episode, and whenever this happened I would put that it was a flashback. Would you guys consider this correct, or should I just not include flashbacks? * 1:20 Super Shmevan I hope that makes sense.. * 1:20 Lenalia Row Well, I don't think that flashback would count.. * 1:21 HalberdBanryu I think stuff like Inuyasha remembers playing ball and being called half breed is something you should note as a   flashback, with Izayoi. But stuff that has been see before, I   wouldn't list the characters. * 1:21 Lenalia Row Its a recap of the previous episode, yes * 1:21 Lenalia Row ? * 1:21 Lenalia Row So thats been seen before, as Banryu said * 1:21 HalberdBanryu Flashbacks that haven't been seen before* If that makes sense lol * 1:21 Super Shmevan Yeah, well kind of. A narrator doesn't actually say something like "previously, on InuYasha..." but technically they are short recaps of what took place in the last episode * 1:21 Ryoga04 Like I said, aren't they just recollections? * 1:22 Super Shmevan And generally its before the title card * 1:22 Ryoga04 ^Ooh, that's a good point Banryu. * 1:22 Lenalia Row oh, that part, Evan? I know what you mean.. * 1:22 Lenalia Row Its like the end of the last episode.. * 1:22 Super Shmevan Yeah, I was kind of confused about it * 1:22 HalberdBanryu Sango remembers being in the village with Kohaku and we haven't seen the scene before, Tsubaki remembers her master and the ogre tower, Kikyo recalls being with inuyasha, stuff like that * 1:22 Lenalia Row *previous * 1:23 Ryoga04 We should probably note such flashbacks. * 1:23 Super Shmevan Ok, so we always get flashbacks of Kohaku killing his father and comrades, would I include them? * 1:23 Lenalia Row Template:FB  * 1:23 Lenalia Row Template:Fb  ._. * 1:24 HalberdBanryu Also "Die, Inuyasha!" x ∞ * 1:24 Ryoga04 Nope, we shouldn't, I think. If it's a new memory, like playing with someone other than Sango and Kirara. * 1:24 Super Shmevan So, really, anytime they're just recycling footage from earlier episodes, I shouldn't mention that the character appeared? * 1:24 HalberdBanryu That's what I think, yes. * 1:25 Super Shmevan Ok, I think I got it, thanks guys :) * 1:25 Ryoga04 Yeah.  * 1:25 Lenalia Row Next is image naming.. but the only think to note    is Banryu's method of naming chapter images, I guess.  * 1:26 Lenalia Row I think I had something else in mind, but that's    gone, lol.  * 1:26 Lenalia Row *thing  * 1:26 HalberdBanryu Episode title images?  * 1:26 Lenalia Row No way can we regulate those ._.  * 1:26 Lenalia Row There's too many x.x  * 1:27 HalberdBanryu PFT, Hell yeah we can! There's 558 chapters and    less than 200 Anime episodes! :P  * 1:27 Ryoga04 What about the title images?  * 1:27 Lenalia Row Yes, but you're uploading ch images as you go. And    there are way more anime images currently  * 1:27 HalberdBanryu I guess that's true. I meant just the title cards    at the beginning, though.  * 1:27 Super Shmevan What about, "Episode X.png" (x= whatever number the episode is) * 1:28 Super Shmevan I feel like the title cards would be easy to name  * 1:28 Lenalia Row Ah, the title cards I just finished renaming them  * 1:28 HalberdBanryu Oh, excel entei.  * 1:28 Lenalia Row "EpisodeX.jpg/png"  * 1:28 Lenalia Row not all are png  * 1:28 Super Shmevan Heh, yeah, I saw you renamed my Final Act title    cards  * 1:28 Super Shmevan Ah yeah  * 1:28 Lenalia Row ._. problem?  * 1:28 Lenalia Row lol, kidding. sorry :P  * 1:28 Super Shmevan Nope :D  * 1:29 HalberdBanryu Media appearances section. And then bed time for    Banryu. lol  * 1:29 Lenalia Row Same here T.T  * 1:29 HalberdBanryu :3  * 1:29 Ryoga04 We'll have minutes of this discussion, right?  * 1:29 Super Shmevan Umm well, I think it's a great idea  * 1:29 Super Shmevan :D  * 1:29 Lenalia Row Yep, Ryoga. I'll make some tomorrow. Um, take a    look at Rin 's media appearances as it is now. * 1:29 HalberdBanryu We are by no means done, with probably 80% of the topics discussed lol * 1:30 Lenalia Row (I'll post the text of tonight's discussion,   though) and Banryu's right, we're still a bit unfinished xD  * 1:30 Super Shmevan Rin has the most extensive media appearances section so far * 1:30 Ryoga04 Looks good to me. * 1:30 Ryoga04 Is there a way to change to tabber color? * 1:32 Ryoga04 Through JS? * 1:32 Lenalia Row I think there's only wiki-wide tabber color.. but I   can check tomorrow. * 1:32 Lenalia Row so if you change it, it affects all tabbers. * 1:32 Lenalia Row on the wiki, I mean. * 1:32 Ryoga04 I see. The class as a whole would have to be changed, huh? * 1:32 Lenalia Row I believe so.. * 1:33 Lenalia Row But can we agree that using the tabber is an   effective way to use a Media appearances section for * 1:33 Ryoga04 Yes, it looks neat. * 1:33 Lenalia Row *characters with more than 8 appearances * 1:33 Lenalia Row great! That's all I had to say on the matter! * 1:33 Ryoga04 That sounds good. * 1:33 Lenalia Row Everyone else? * 1:33 HalberdBanryu Huzzzzzzah. An excellent Daimyo-kai indeed! * 1:33 Super Shmevan Sounds good to me * 1:33 Ryoga04 Below 8 = no media appearances section. * 1:34 Lenalia Row Below 8 = you don't need a tabber * 1:34 Super Shmevan Heh :) * 1:34 Super Shmevan Isn't it, if the character only appears in one    anime episode or one manga chapter that they don't get a media    appearance section?  * 1:34 Ryoga04 Really? So, what about the characters who appear in    only one chapter/episode?  * 1:34 HalberdBanryu lol  * 1:35 Super Shmevan :D  * 1:35 Super Shmevan Character pages#Media appearances      * 1:35 Lenalia Row Only appears once, no media section, lol.  * 1:36 Ryoga04 I am tired lol. Must be the pills.  * 1:36 HalberdBanryu Shima, my favorite character  * 1:36 Lenalia Row http://memecrunch.com/meme/SDFW/wow/image.png  * 1:36 Lenalia Row yay!  * 1:36 Super Shmevan :D  * 1:36 HalberdBanryu XD  * 1:36 Super Shmevan I luv that scene  * 1:36 Ryoga04 Haha Row. I remember that episode.  * 1:36 Lenalia Row ikr ^^  * 1:36 Super Shmevan Myoga... :D * 1:37 Super Shmevan So, we're all done for tonight? * 1:37 Lenalia Row yep * 1:38 HalberdBanryu I think so. Should we discuss our plans for a   next meeting, or eh? * 1:38 Super Shmevan It's up to you sleepyheads * 1:38 Lenalia Row Up to Banryu. * 1:39 HalberdBanryu I don't care that much, then lol. We can figure it out later. * 1:39 Ryoga04 Yeah, I'm tired lol. I should take some rest now. * 1:40 HalberdBanryu *GROUP HUG*